Central Europe MP Route Project

    Thank you Este!
    It was nice working with you on this. I wish I could have been more useful for the testing phase, but my lack of time and space wouldn´t allow for it.

    Anyways, the S-bahn Linienplan objects, created for every station, with different time era colours are finished and will soon be on the DLS.

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    Hello,

    While we all impatiently wait for the next Central Europe Mini, you might enjoy this: https://herecomethetrainzes.com/CentralEuropeMini

    (EN) Dear Friend,

    I believe your idea widely relies on some of the EET historic passenger coaches I made and in most cases updated a couple of times througout the last 15 years. I know this might be an irritating issue regarding your project, but a big part of the historic fleet is currently being updated again - for a primary reason to "fix" the disappearing roof vents and add a more visually-friendly LOD system. At the same time, since Christmas 2024 the fleet is being strongly expanded by many new models, introduced for the first time in Trainz universe. Currently only BDZ, CFR, ÖBB, SZD and PKP fleets update were fully finished, while ČSD is being updated as we speak, with DR, DB and SNCF awaiting their turn next. Therefore, I strongly recommend to check the DLS for most recent versions of any historic models made under kuid numbers 173943, 405057, 461942, 547220, 449411, 313733, 534300, 741143, 493736 and 341856 (all EET members and cooperators), especially in the case of BDZ, ČSD, ÖBB, SZD and PKP historic coaches. I'd also advise to check out all most recent creations, since many newcommers arrived, clearly useful for a project of this kind (and this happened throughout the last month, no more, no less - with more to come during the incoming weeks). I apologize for any inconvenience, however the final effect and the expanded fleet possibilities are worth it. And one more thing - this is the last scheduled fix of this type for the historic fleet, you have my word on that.

    (DE) Lieber Freund,

    Ich glaube, Ihre Idee stützt sich weitgehend auf einige der historischen EET-Personenwagen, die ich gebaut und in den meisten Fällen in den letzten 15 Jahren ein paar Mal aktualisiert habe. Ich weiß, dass dies bei Ihrem Projekt ein irritierendes Problem sein könnte, aber ein großer Teil der historischen Flotte wird derzeit erneut modernisiert – hauptsächlich aus dem Grund, die verschwindenden Dachlüftungsöffnungen zu „reparieren“ und ein optisch ansprechenderes LOD-System hinzuzufügen. Gleichzeitig wird die Flotte seit Weihnachten 2024 kräftig um viele neue Modelle erweitert, die erstmals im Trainz-Universum vorgestellt werden. Derzeit sind nur die Flottenaktualisierungen der BDZ, CFR, ÖBB, SZD und PKP vollständig abgeschlossen, während die ČSD derzeit aktualisiert wird und DR, DB und SNCF darauf warten, als nächstes an der Reihe zu sein. Daher empfehle ich dringend, im DLS nach den neuesten Versionen aller historischen Modelle zu suchen, die unter den Kuid-Nummern 173943, 405057, 461942, 547220, 449411, 313733, 534300, 741143, 493736 und 341856 hergestellt wurden (alle EET-Mitglieder und Kooperationspartner), insbesondere in der Fall von Historische Reisebusse der BDZ, ČSD, ÖBB, SZD und PKP. Ich würde Ihnen außerdem raten, sich alle neuesten Kreationen anzuschauen, da viele Neuankömmlinge hinzugekommen sind, die für ein Projekt dieser Art eindeutig nützlich sind (und dies geschah im letzten Monat, nicht mehr und nicht weniger – und in den kommenden Wochen werden noch mehr hinzukommen). . Ich entschuldige mich für etwaige Unannehmlichkeiten, aber der Endeffekt und die erweiterten Flottenmöglichkeiten sind es wert. Und noch etwas: Dies ist die letzte geplante Reparatur dieser Art für die historische Flotte, darauf können Sie mein Wort vertrauen.

    (PL) Drogi Kolego,

    Wygląda na to, że Twój pomysł w dużej mierze opiera się na historycznej flocie wagonowej EET mojego autorstwa, w większości aktualizowanej kilkukrotnie w ciągu ostatnich 15 lat. Wiem, że może to być irytujący problem dla Waszego projektu, ale trzon historycznej floty jest obecnie ponownie aktualizowany – z zamiarem "poprawy” znikających otworów wentylacyjnych na dachach poprzez dodanie bardziej przyjaznego wizualnie systemu LOD. Jednocześnie od Świąt Bożego Narodzenia 2024 flota jest mocno rozbudowywana o wiele nowych modeli, wprowadzonych po raz pierwszy w świat Trainz. Obecnie w pełni zakończono jedynie aktualizację parku historycznych wagonów BDZ, CFR, ÖBB, SZD i PKP, natomiast ČSD jest w trakcie aktualizacji, a na swoją kolej czekają jeszcze DR, DB i SNCF. Dlatego zdecydowanie zalecam sprawdzenie DLS pod kątem najnowszych wersji wszelkich modeli historycznych wykonanych pod numerami kuid 173943, 405057, 461942, 547220, 449411, 313733, 534300, 741143, 493736 i 341856 (bez wyjątku członkowie i współpracownicy EET), szczególnie w przypadek taboru BDZ, ČSD, ÖBB, SZD i PKP. Radziłbym również sprawdzić nowości, ponieważ od końca zeszłego roku przybyło wiele zupełnie nowych modeli historycznych, zapewne przydatnych w tego rodzaju projekcie. Za wszelkie niedogodności przepraszam, jednak efekt końcowy i rozszerzone możliwości wagonowe są tego warte. I jeszcze jedno - to już ostatni zaplanowany "fix" tego typu dla historycznej floty, daję słowo.


    (CZ) Milý Kolego,

    Věřím, že váš nápad se široce opírá o některé z historických osobních vozů EET, které jsem vyrobil a ve většině případů několikrát aktualizoval během posledních 15 let. Vím, že to může být ponekud problematické s perspektivy Vašeho projektu, ale velká část historické flotily je v současné době znovu aktualizována – z hlavního důvodu „opraveni“ mizející střešní větrací otvory - co jde spolu s přidani vizuálně příjemnější na příjem systému LOD. Od Vánoc 2024 se zároveň flotila výrazně rozšiřuje o mnoho nových modelů, které byly poprvé představeny ve světe Trainz. Aktuálně byla plně dokončena pouze aktualizace vozových parků BDZ, CFR, ÖBB, SZD a PKP, zatímco ČSD se průběžně aktualizují, přičemž na další objednávku stale čekají DR, DB a SNCF. Proto důrazně doporučuji zkontrolovat DLS pro nejnovější verze všech historických modelů vyrobených pod kuid čísly 173943, 405057, 461942, 547220, 449411, 313733, 534300, 741143, 4937836 (vsechno členové a spolupracovnici EET) v případe historických vozů BDZ, ČSD, ÖBB, SZD a PKP. Také bych doporučil, abyste se podívali na všechny nově položky, protože dorazilo mnoho nově příchozích, kteří jsou zjevně užiteční pro projekt tohoto druhu (a tyto novinky dorazily během posledního měsíce, nic víc, nic méně, a pravdepodobne par dalších přijde během nadcházejících týdnů) . Omlouvám se za případné potíženi, nicméně výsledný efekt a rozšířené možnosti historickeho vozového parku stojí za to. A ještě něco - toto je poslední plánovaná aktualita tohoto typu pro historickou flotilu, na to máte moje slovo.

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    (EN) Dear Friend,

    I believe your idea widely relies on some of the EET historic passenger coaches I made and in most cases updated a couple of times througout the last 15 years. I know this might be an irritating issue regarding your project, but a big part of the historic fleet is currently being updated again - for a primary reason to "fix" the disappearing roof vents and add a more visually-friendly LOD system. At the same time, since Christmas 2024 the fleet is being strongly expanded by many new models, introduced for the first time in Trainz universe. Currently only BDZ, CFR, ÖBB, SZD and PKP fleets update were fully finished, while ČSD is being updated as we speak, with DR, DB and SNCF awaiting their turn next. Therefore, I strongly recommend to check the DLS for most recent versions of any historic models made under kuid numbers 173943, 405057, 461942, 547220, 449411, 313733, 534300, 741143, 493736 and 341856 (all EET members and cooperators), especially in the case of BDZ, ČSD, ÖBB, SZD and PKP historic coaches. I'd also advise to check out all most recent creations, since many newcommers arrived, clearly useful for a project of this kind (and this happened throughout the last month, no more, no less - with more to come during the incoming weeks). I apologize for any inconvenience, however the final effect and the expanded fleet possibilities are worth it. And one more thing - this is the last scheduled fix of this type for the historic fleet, you have my word on that.

    Hi Kilanzoim. Nice to finally meet :) (Sorry for my late response. Web forums are not my thing. Should I ever not respond, just contact me by email. Address can be found on our site.)

    Thank you for pointing to your new and updated materiel. Great to hear that you're extending and updating your impressive fleet! Especially interesting to hear you are working on SNCF materiel! We've long been wanting to build a french Super Session!

    Unfortunately, N3V secretly killed certain signals in TRS22 SP3 and beyond, which means that both the Niddertalbahn and original CEM routes are now essentially dead. Under TRS22 SP3 and newer, no sessions work on these routes anymore, including our Super Sessions. Hence our extensive documentation on how to install the right kuids, using the right versions of TRS.

    Therefore, it seems unlikely that we will ever update these two Super Sessions. It makes more sense to create new Super Sessions. For routes that N3V has not yet killed. ('though it is hard to keep up with their kill-rate…)

    But we'd love to do something nice with your beautiful models in a future project. We're quite aware you made much more than we could cram into these 2 Super Sessions, and now that it turns out you are updating, and adding even more, that's all the more reason to look into a new project to somehow feature your children :)

    Btw, any suggestions for new Super Sessions – which route you would like to see a Super Session on – are welcome. (Probably better to move that to a new thread though.)

    Cheers!

    We have finally settled on the numbers and destinations of the U-bahn network in Niederburg.

    U1 - Südbahnhof - Heddernheim
    U2 - Südbahnhof - Bad Homburg
    U6/7 - Industriehof Ring

    Note: This is not the final selection of vehicles, these were only used for the line selection process.

    Planned network coverage:

    Note: All lines will be able to be player driven. Line colours are not final, used here only to be visually distinguished from each other.

    Colour scheme:

    Note: This will be the general colour scheme for the stations on the network. Furthermore, certain statins will receive unique indetifiable features and details - murals, nameplates, decorations. To make the network feel more unique.

    This is a project of me and 10 other people, creating objects, scripts and trains, updating and expanding the route. CEM is a fictional, scaled down representation of 4 Central European countries - Slovakia, Czechia, Poland and Germany (WIP). While I appreciate your input and feeback, it has been stated several times that Denmark is not going to be included. Switzerland, Austria and Hungary are not going to be included either for the same reason as Denmark - lack of assets. What is also not going to be included, is your route. You are not part of the team and your building style differs from ours a lot.

    I like the feedback people provide, I don´t like talking about stuff that is not part of what the CEM Team are working on.

    Building the city of Niederburg continues on. A new intersection on the northern end of the city has been built. Here the U-Bahn lines U6 and U7, cross below the mainline to Siebenhagen. The U-Bahn here turns towards the harbour. The road will continue heading north, along the mainline, cross under the autobahn, and run through a valley of houses and villas as it nears the river. The mainline crosses the river on a new high-speed corridor, while the road turns west to follow the river and exit the city. When I finish this area, the hardest challenge will lie in front of me: Europahafen - the harbour of Niederburg. I will need to craft an industrial area that is performance friendly, realistic and full of fun for shunting operations.

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    This is a project of me and 10 other people, creating objects, scripts and trains, updating and expanding the route. CEM is a fictional, scaled down representation of 4 Central European countries - Slovakia, Czechia, Poland and Germany (WIP). While I appreciate your input and feeback, it has been stated several times that Denmark is not going to be included. Switzerland, Austria and Hungary are not going to be included either for the same reason as Denmark - lack of assets. What is also not going to be included, is your route. You are not part of the team and your building style differs from ours a lot.

    I like the feedback people provide, I don´t like talking about stuff that is not part of what the CEM Team are working on.

    Lack of Assets like Trackside assets (Signals, Catenary, ...?)

    Regarding Switzerland there are some houses and iirc station signs and other smaller stuff on the DLS.

    For a small Model railroad I build I started working on a swiss signal system and want to add catenary afterwards as well and I have the same plan for austrian Catenary and signals. Maybe that can help out a bit:)

    And for the current project:

    I enjoy the development and build streams a lot! The route Looks extremely good so far!:)

    Signals, signs and catenary are the main problem for Switzerland. I have looked at the stuff available on the DLS, unfortunately I am missing some crucial assets that would make large scale stations and routes feasable. I am also unable to find any documentation, so that I could at least know what I am missing. With Poland, Czechia and Slovakia, we have rail fan websites, listing everything down to the specific ways of how to end a catenary wire in 5 different ways. For Germany I have the help of 2 train drivers and Mika.

    Austria is the worst when it comes to the lack of assets, where we lack even basic trains. While we do have Taurus engines, we only have two relatively okay passenger cars. There are no available multiple units at all. Austria also doesn´t have any signals and catenary on the DLS, with the exception of Mariazellerbahn, but those are very old assets. Whether they work at all in TRS22 (and later eventually) is a major question and problem.
    Another thing I want to point out, is that because of the mountainous terrain of Austria and Switzerland, these two would have to be developed as one expansion.

    Hungary has catenary and signals, but functionality of signals is also questioned, just like Austria. One of our team members is creating hungarian catenary, but it won´t be enough to bring Hungary to CEM yet, but it has highest potential of the 4 countries. We have 3 hungarian guys on our team, a train driver and two modellers. Trains, while outdated, we do have acess to some models and we can create more. Hungary is the most likely expansion, but I don´t want to overtake our possibilities. The country still requires a lot of work before we can even start building the expansion.

    Denmark has the most potential right after Hungary. We do have a Danish person on our team, we have catenary, we have signals (though not all of them work as they should), and while we also have trains, they are very outdated. Denmark is also considerably outside of the region we want to focus on. While we have built part of Denmark for the original CE project, we want to keep the size and locations for CEM in check, and work on one thing at a time.

    And for Austria too hard to find catenaries

    Bahnbauen macht spaß!:winking_face_with_tongue:

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    Ok

    This is also my project based on Central Europe, which I started at the beginning of March. It's a fictional project and is intended to look like a mix of my North German and West Polish motifs.

    It called "Marschbahn Polish Style"

    This topic isn't about Routes in Central Europe.. its about one Central Europe Route created by multiple people together, which features multiple countries.

    So talking about a different Route doesn't fit here

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    If Slovak_Eagle agrees I would like to deleted the Off topic from this threat? Any concerns?

    Yes you may.

    Quote from OKOK-TV

    Ok

    This is also my project based on Central Europe, which I started at the beginning of March. It's a fictional project and is intended to look like a mix of my North German and West Polish motifs.

    It called "Marschbahn Polish Style"

    This thread is for a the route that I am working on. Not the routes located in the geographical area.
    Dieser Thread bezieht sich auf die Route, an der ich arbeite. Nicht auf die Routen in dem geografischen Gebiet.